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There's not set cut off point, and age of consent is political. So I certainly would consider a 12 or 16 year old a, and the age of consent in the Netherlands is 12 and and work in brothels at 16. In Canada the age of consent is 15. I would consider all these cases that are not underage.
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Probably shouldn't have opened a new thread, but cumforme said it would be nice for me to share results of first flogging. I had asked, now buried somewhere, if anyone would care to share there first experiences with this. I was very nervous and just wanted to hear others experiences. I am happy to report that all went well .I received 5 light or soft flogs and then 15 more increasing in intensity. It began to sting somewhere around the fifth or sixth flog, and by 15 it was stinging good and I had tears in my eyes. But I felt it was very successful because I knew I could have taken more in quantity but not so sure about severity. Here I was all proud of myself and smiling when of course Daddy tells me he could have flogged me a lot harder. He used a pillow to show me how hard he was flogging me and then showed me how hard he could have done it. Wiped the smile right off my face The first ones looked hard enough to me. So I was secretly still proud of myself. That was yesterday, and yes I can still feel it on one small spot . but no marks. He made the flogger out of thin nylon rope and burned the ends so they wouldn't unravel. My eyes bugged when I saw it because I thought it would be some kind of softer material. Well I'm just happy I have some type of starting point so I know if he says 50 next weekend I can start safe wording right away..lol. Thanks for listening ..had to share with someone :)

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argue ANY point without saying you're "stupid" if you don't agree with them? (Projection of your weaknesses on someone is a psychological deficiency, BTW. You want to have a doctor check you out for that)